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new emails - July!!!!

Our annual budget: The local amount to be raised by taxes for 2006 is $2,424,672.60 and the local tax rate for 2006 is .179.

evacuation meeting
if a resident is handicapped and/or will have difficulties in an evacuation they should contact our police force in advance so that they can check on you and /or help you evacuation.

It was a common sense meeting. There was nothing really new discussed. The basic message was leave when they tell you to leave....early and be prepared with a storm kit...this is available to Harvey Cedars residents in magnet form for the fridge which lists what you should do and take in event of an evacuation. I hope that they have extra magnets in the boro hall. They also had handouts of all the storms that hit LBI and what destruction was caused. They discussed that route 72 would be 4 lanes westward in event of an evacuation. I thought it was just common sense....have a place on the mainland to go to in the event of an evacuation and LEAVE EARLY! DO NOT WAIT FOR THE STORM TO HIT FOR IT MAY BE TOO LATE. Barbara Lehman

evacuation meeting
It was a general meeting which included the whole island... what everyone stress was that there is going to be traffic so when we are told evacuate the island do not was time leave as soon as possible.. Have thing that you will need to take with you papers passports tax bills insurance papers have your car filled with gas...it was a very genernal meeting tony cannizo

AAA Pet Book Helps Pet Owners To Find Lodging During Disasters from Kathy Ries

excerpt Asbury Park Press article
LBI's experience in '62 Any evacuation needs to start at least a day before tropical rains arrive in advance of the hurricane and flood the roads, says James Eberwine, a meteorologist at the National Weather Service office in Mount Holly . Anyone who has spent a few hours trying to get off Long Beach Island after a heavy thunderstorm can attest to that. As Category 3 winds build up, they would start driving storm tides across coastal roads three to five hours before the storm center hits, according to the National Hurricane Center. "Terrain continuously lower than 5 feet above mean sea level may be flooded inland 8 miles or more," the center's Web pages note. The Route 72 causeway is the single roadway off Long Beach Island . By an accident of history it's also located at one of the lowest spots on the island — a most convenient location for the 19th-century railroad crossing that preceded automobiles. The great March 1962 winter gale scoured and flattened Long Beach Island under five successive high tides. A hurricane of 1821 proportions would repeat that treatment in one blow, with a storm surge around 14 feet above normal sea level, according to surge maps prepared by the Army Corps of Engineers. After years of erosion, Harvey Cedars Mayor Jonathan S. Oldham says, the borough's beaches at this point could not even handle a repeat of the December 1992 nor'easter, when only a single tide reached 1962 levels. Today, Oldham says, "we would not survive" such a storm. "Waves on top of the storm surge can actually destroy concrete. And we're concerned with the safety of the bridges," says Leckner, the State Police planner. "If somebody chooses to remain on a barrier island, their house may stay high and dry, but the bridges may all be destroyed, and we won't be able to bring in ambulances." Firetrucks, too, will be evacuated so they're not destroyed in the surge, Leckner said, and they won't come back until engineers make sure the bridge is ready — which could take days. "You're going to have a tremendous amount of debris on the road," including sand, wood from damaged houses and probably nails, says Wayne R. Rupert, Ocean County undersheriff. Any survivors on Long Beach Island could be stuck there for days, and not just because the roads are bad, Rupert says: The island could have a new inlet cut through it, as happened at Harvey Cedars in 1962. from Kathy Ries

Good Morning, Wendy Mae....Thanks for meeting reminder. Happened to see your letter to the editor in this morning's APP. If I'm not mistaken, the reporter of the July l7th article you refer to was John Vandiver. He wrote an article in a supplement in the Press (Guide to Life on LBI) which appeared in July. He devoted two sentences to Harvey Cedars but was able to include the following..."more exclusive" (than Surf City which was cited in the previous paragraph), "trappings of wealth", "private property signs", and "No public beach access". Needless to say that is not the Harvey Cedars I know - so I tracked him down and finally reached him. I suggested that he may have had us confused with neighboring towns (his response was that he should have included them as well) and that he really did a disservice by not including the many things HC has to offer residents and visitors - to name a few, Sunset Park, Bay Beach, on street parking available, etc. etc. He wasn't impressed ! Oh, well - my husband and I took a look at the No Access signs, all of which seem to be at the southern entrance to town. I like to think we're more than that!!! Keep up the good work. Joan

What was the "dog poop" memorandum? I know. I don't have enough to do in my life but worry about dog poop. Phil

Regarding issues to bring up at the meeting: It would be great for the town to publicize that homeowners need to clearly mark what 18 feet (I believe that is the dimension) they wish to claim as their driveway, with the understanding that the rest of the roadway in front of their house is public parking. For some of us on the ocean front, we can not park cars in front of our driveways, since it is beyond the yellow line. Thus we and/or friends must sometimes park on the road below the yellow line. In the interest of promoting neighborliness, it would be good for the town to publicize -- in a big way -- what the policy is and to then enforce it. If this issue has already been addressed in a recent mailing, please pardon my rambling. Most of the Harvey Cedars mailings go to my brother's address. Thanks for your help, David Ellenbogen

As long as we are at it, it would be a good thing if people who own second homes would have the right to vote in local elections. Since we are all tax payers, we should have a say in how our money is spent. Local elected officials should welcome the input. If you believe as I do, that you should have a vote locally, please let your State Legislators know. I am involved in politics and can attest to the fact that noisy constituents usually get to have their way---eventually. What we have now is a situation of taxation without representation---at least so far as our beach houses are concerned.. Ilan Plawker

As long as one votes only once...he or she can vote in HC whether it's a second home or not. I decided years ago that my vote meant more in HC than it did in PA.....i therefore moved my registration to HC. Anyone can do it......just call the Ocean County Election Board. Again....it makes no difference where you live or where you pay your taxes. Everyone here can vote in HC if they choose. Ed Demming

By the way, have you read about the consideration of changing the speed limits on the boulevard, for both North Beach and Loveladies, not sure if Harvey Cedars is joining. To me, it seems extremely dangerous for pedestrian and cycling activity. I already feel I take mine and my children's life in our hands when we venture out on the boulevard. Are there any community groups raising concern about the increase? Donna Boehringer

Are there limits on how many boats and or trailers you can keep on your property? Thank you Frank O'Hara

Unfortunately, we will not be in Harvey Cedars until after 10/17. But we really appreciate receiving emails. Thank you! Kathy Coen - POA for Louise Harto, 10 E 78th ST.

We are trying to get the Boro to remove trees that block water views form the right of way ( that is owned by the Boro) The next step would be to get a tree ordinance for trees on private properties. Ocean and bay views are both an asset to the community, in my humble view and the more obstructions you get ,the less light and air is available Samir Tadros

all homeowners should vote, after all we pay the same real estate tax on our homes. As far as offending tree growth I have the same issue. I will also complain and request a look see if it will mean something. Most complaints go unanswered, it only goes to infuriate people and neighbors. My neighbor's trees are pushing against my fence and I constantly clean up pine cones and needles. The trees have block views from my decks and have affected my ability to rent my home during the summer months. Regards to all. I think you are doing a fine job! Steve Steven Sewald, CPA

What this about my 18’ of parking space??? Also, I doubt that taxes would increase due to sanding our beaches. If the town was to under take such a large project on their own they would have to go to the voters to get it approved and I doubt it would pass. I live on West Bergen, and I think everyone should leave the tree problem alone, it could be a double edged sword. If the boro forbids trees on the property they could also stop us from planting bushes, trash bins and parking. This would seriously affect my property and others. Thanks again for your efforts Richard Franko 3 West Bergen Ave

new emails - June!!!!

The meeting is a very good idea, expecially after the New Orleans failure during Katrina. What we hope will be addressed is how to get off the island in a timely manner. The tenant changeover on Saturday mornings is just a small measure of what will happen if the entire population had to evacuate at the same time. We thought that fishing boats might be used to transport evacuees to the mainland, but then we realized that evacuees' cars would have been left behind so buses would be needed to transport people to the high school, but then the high school might not have room for everyone so buses would be needed to transport them further, then after the hurricane how would they be able to return to LBI to pick up their cars even if the cars were still in running order? If the damage is only wind damage the cars might survive, but if there is a storm surge of 30 feet of water - houses, cars and everything will be completely wiped out. There are immense problems for this meeting to address. My husband and I will be there, Sandra Fulda, Harvey Cedars

Dear Mr. Oldham, Thank you for your continuing efforts to assure that the Beach Replenishment project is implemented. Please continue the "fight" Regards, Barbara and Steven Silbert

I am a nine year home owner in Harvey Cedars and am pleased to own one of the very few Historic Houses that are left. This building has been standing since it was constructed by the first mayor of Harvey Cedars, Isaac Lee in 1887. On one hand we are lucky to be several houses from the ocean front at a street elevation of 6.7 feet and relatively protected. On the other hand we are not in a position to have the opportunity to sign an easement which we definitely would if we owned Ocean Front property to protect our precious ocean beach. We can, however, make our opinions known through this mode.

All one has to do is look at the pictures of the extreme devastation of the 1962 storm to see the magnitude of the property loss that was encountered. The dunes were gone and the Ocean Front homes that were able to survive this terrific storm were high on their pilings and surrounded by water. Also, in 1962 there was not nearly the volume of huge expensive homes, businesses and utilities as there are now.

We had friends of ours that owned a house that was located 3 and 1/2 blocks from the ocean in Sea Isle City before the 1962 storm. After the storm wiped out the beach and 2 solid blocks of houses their house is now 1 and 1/2 blocks from the ocean. While the beach was replaced, all the homes that were lost to the storm were never rebuilt. All the sand from Sea Isle City washed away and ended up building the huge beaches of Wildwood...

I don't believe that all the ocean front owners in Harvey Cedars fully understand that this could happen to them...One has to just look at the ghastly remains of the old Small estate which surface periodically on the beach to fully understand the power of our ocean. Where is the 5 miles of Tuckers Island and it's lighthouse today?? We have been very lucky for over 40 plus years since the last big storm but its the 50 year storm right around the corner that may do us in.

I ask you, therefore, to please do all you can to educate the ocean front owners of the important magnitude of this issue so as to not let it slip by. Over these nine years we have observed how hard people have worked year after year to get the funding for this project only to have it turned down. It would be a travesty if these available appropriations were lost do to stupidity or ignorance. Sincerely: Mr. and Mrs. Donald Ryerson 7405 Long Beach Boulevard

I think that what you are trying to achieve in Harvey Cedars is admirable. AND, it is good to see the Borough elected officials working with the Taxpayers' Association to achieve something that is of benefit to the entire community. Keep up the good work! Sincerely, Sarah Lambert Barnegat Light Taxpayers' Association

Wendy... thank you for your wonderful summary, and for posting the presentation. Stew indicated that he addressed some of your questions about the summary. Again, it was a pleasure, and we thank the Mayor, Borough Council, and the residents of HC for giving us the opportunity to do the analysis and speak on this very important topic. Warm regards, Mark J. Mihalasky, Ph.D., P.Geo (WA)

Dear Mr. Mayor: As you are certainly aware, the beach replenishment project is truly a needed program, if 1962 is not to be repeated. I cannot conceive why anyone would not be willing to sign the easements; they obviously are either ignorant of the cosequences, or else simply don't care (and must be looking for a tax write-off). In any event, I would urge that Harvey Cedars proceed to take whatever steps are available (including the exercise of eminent domain proceedings, if necessary) to ensure that this program moves forward. Charles C. Gaver, Jr. 4 Mercer Avenue

I am writing to strongly urge you to do whatever you need to do to make sure Harvey Cedars receives funding for beach replenishment. If you need to invoke eminent domain, I urge you to do it. You represent all the taxpayers in the Boro, not only the vocal few with a few parcels along the beaches. We, as well as our visitors, and the businesses and tourist deserve a long term healthy community. As we have clearly seen this past year, hurricanes and winter storms can do major damage to both our land and our homes. We in Harvey Cedars are vulnerable as past storms have unfortunately shown. All of us are at risk, to say nothing of the tourism and income it brings to our island. I am available to talk to you further at any time Please feel free to call or e-mail me if you wish. Norm Epstein 10 W. Lee Ave. Norman B. Epstein President & CEO

As Harvey Cedars Beachfront backers of the proposed beach replenishment, we wish you every success in advancing this project. We look forward to hearing the good news that it is moving ahead. Dick Erstad 5307-D LB Blvd.

Excellent work on your part and we are proud of the Mayor for his agressive position on getting the beach replenishment completed. Regards, Gary Chasen

We have owned our oceanfront home @ 13 E 77th St. since 1973. Never have we had an opportunity to improve our dunes and beaches as we have right now. As our elected officials, you must work as hard as possible to get this approved. Those who are holding out must be visited by you, the officials and convinced to sign. It may be an unpleasant task, but the risk / reward factor is extemely high. We urge you to follow through on this task. Sincerely, Reg and Barbara Smith

Dear Mayor and Commisioners, Our family owns two homes in Harvey Cedars, one on the ocean (15B Gloucester Ave) which we use off season and rent out, the other near the bible conference (6502 Holly Ave) that we use in season. Like you, we cherish our experiences in Harvey Cedars and the joy that our homes bring our family. We were not asked to sign an easement, but we would have, as we have seen the power of the ocean and the vulnerability of our dunes and beaches. We believe this beach replenishement project is of CRITICAL importance to the security of life and property. Please do whatever is necessary to allow the project to go forward. Please do not hesitate to invoke eminent domain, or whatever tools are necessary to secure the project for the benefit of the entire town. It will be infinitely cheaper to pay legal bills now than to pay for the beachfill (or storm clean-up) later. Please know that we appreciate all of your hardwork and advocacy...you have our continued support. Thank you, Pamela and Robert Epifano

Dear Jon Oldham, Mike Garofalo, Judith Gerkens: I am in favor of evoking Eminent Domain to ensure that we get the beach replenishment project started. This is a vital project and I still can not believe there are oceanfront owners who do not think we need this project. The dune in front of our property has been eroding every year and it will soon be gone. Forfeiting the opportunity to use federal funds to pay for this project would be incomprehensible. Please do what ever is in your powers to get this project done. Thank you for your work in advance. Sincerely, Nels Kauppila 9 E.Hudson

Please add my name to the large and growing list of Harvey Cedars property owners who are urging that something be done to get over the current impasse and complete the proposed beach replenishment program before it is too late.

My wife and I have owned the property at 12 Warwick Ave. since 1984. We hope to continue enjoying our home for many more years and have always dreamed of ultimately passing it along to our children and grandchildren. The growing threat of a significant storm in the Northeast has put that dream in jeopardy; especially if our beaches are allowed to continue in their current, unprotected state. This is not “chicken little” overreaction. The predictions come from numerous credible sources and are supported, in my view, by simple common logic.

I have some sympathy with those who have paid the price for an ocean-front home and have enjoyed the current, largely-unrestricted views and access to the beach. If they have enjoyed these properties for several years they should consider their blessings. But I am aghast to think that those property owners might be willing to put their investments in jeopardy in order to maintain the status quo. It is particularly disappointing considering that these people are, in a sense, making that same decision for many of the others of us who also enjoy property ownership in Harvey Cedars, albeit not ocean front properties.

I urge the elected officials to do whatever they can to obtain the rights to undertake the proposed beach replenishment program in a timely fashion. Although I am not usually a proponent of using the legal system to achieve results, if that is the only remaining course of action (and it appears that it might be), then it is certainly preferable to standing by while a relatively small group of individuals puts our borough and most of its property owners at substantial increased risk of losing everything. Fred D. Hafer

Mayor Jonathan Oldham: mayor@harveycedars.org Michael Garofalo: commissioner.finance@harveycedars.org Judith E. Gerkens: commissioner.dpw@harveycedars.org

for the record, i am an oceanfront owner, i have signed the easement and fully support the beach replenishment project

some numbers: the current easement count is 48 YES and 34 NO, a 58.5% majority out of the 82 needed. clearly 58.5% represents a majority of just the oceanfront owners. you clearly have your direction as our elected officials to get this project started.

you have my support to do whatever it takes, including eminent domain, to get this project done. this is an opportunity that you as our elected officials must get done on your watch.

we must not let the short sidedness of 34 people jeopardize the entire town's safety.

more numbers: there are 1320 tax listings on the HC books, every one of them is financially threatened by the shortsightedness of the 34 holdouts, the 34 holdouts are less than 3% of the total tax listings

the 1962 storm was bad. let's not forget the extensive damage caused by the 1992 storm, just 14 years ago. the damage would have been prevented. for those not around then see pics of the 1992 storm at: photos

again, i do appreciate all the effort you have put in. you do have my support to do whatever it takes to get one done.

you have your direction, do not let the majority down, do whatever it takes !! jim page Block 5, Lot 10 Block 38, Lot 5

Dear Moyer Oldham, My wife, Elizabeth Fritz and I are in favor of evoking eminent domain for the beach replenishment. Sincerely, Jim Fritz 1W 82nd Street.

If eminent domain is necessary to protect the island, than so be it. You are the leadership of our community and you need to be leaders and do what is right to protect the properties and the beach. People will be upset no matter what way you vote but you need to feel you made the right decision. Be a leader and don’t worry about being liked.
My property is one off the ocean, 9 Sussex, I believe if eminent domain is necessary to move this beach replenishment along, than so be it. The properties need protection, from any big storm and the beach has been shrinking for the last 7 years. I have seen pilings from old buildings projecting out of the surf line, at Stellar Maris beach area. I have had to move beach blankets up to the dune area to avoid waves hitting our possessions. You have my vote of confidence for protection of the island. It takes leadership to do what is right, no matter who gets upset. Michael Todd

We do not generally support the use of eminent domain, however in this case we feel that we are at risk of losing our property as well as being put in physical danger. This might be the only opportunity for government funding. We therefore, fully support the idea of using it to get our township beaches replenished. Please keep in mind that you must represent the entire community, not just ocean front owners. I'm sure if it were possible to have a referendum in this issue, the results would be in huge favor for beach replenishment. Since moving here full time a few years ago my wife and I have been very satisfied with how Harvey Cedars is run. We understand that this is a difficult issue and in the end not everyone will be happy with the outcome. Yet, with the dire predictions of large storms...how can we possible pass up this opportunity? Sharon & Al Marchioni

The replenishment of Harvey Cedars beaches is essential to maintain the vitality, beauty, and safety of our island community. Please invoke eminent domain on those properties whose owners are unwilling to sign the easment agreement. It would be a serious mistake to allow those few property owners to jeapordize such a well needed project for the boro.

Dear commissioner of public works. It is in the best interest of the Borough of Harvey Cedars that the beaches be replenished as presently proposed. It would not be in the best interest of the Borough of Harvey Cedars to allow a few property owners who refuse to sign the easment agreements to jeaopardize this much needed project. The replenishment is essential to maintain the vitality, beauty, and safety of the Borough and its citizens. Please invoke eminent domain of those properties whose owners cooperation is being witheld.

Dennis and Marlyn Christensen 2 East Atlantic Avenue

I am the ocean front owner of the property at 5703 D Long Beach Blvd. I am writing to express strongly my opinion that beach replenishment is necessary, and I support completely the plans to proceed with the beach replenishment project. thank you Gladys Fenichel, MD

We believe that you should invoke eminent domain if necessary to get beach replenishment. Bob and Judy Chernoff 6809 Norfolk Place

Dear Jon Oldham, Mike Garofalo and Judith Gerkens, This email is to inform you that we are in favor of you evoking eminent domain to replenish Harvey Cedars beach. Thank you, Laura D. Marcy 28 W. 80th Street

Honorable Mayor,
For the last eight months, I’ve listened to the arguments on both sides of the issue and have concluded that this beach replenishment project is the best alternative for my home and our town. Our past efforts at plowing sand have been nothing more than a band-aid for an ever-increasing problem. All you need to do is listen to the daily news to hear the dire storm predictions for the Northeast coast this season. If one of these forecasts comes to fruition, our homes could be seriously undermined or destroyed completely. My family lost our home in the ’62 storm. It was devastating and certainly not something we wish to experience again. And, should a similar storm hit our area, we cannot be assured that the Army Corps will not move the building line further west rendering some existing properties as non-build able. It happened in ’62 and could happen, again.

I can’t understand the lingering concerns of our neighbors who refuse to grant access to the non-build able portion of their property. My concern is that their positions are so entrenched, that there is no room for movement or negotiation.

You have gone to great lengths to send mailings, place phone calls and hold meetings with every conceivable governmental agency who could shed light on the issue and resolve any outstanding questions. You’ve held easements in escrow and, in fact, changed the language on the easement to accommodate some homeowners’ objections. Your patience and perseverance are commendable and greatly appreciated.

With June 15th fast approaching, we’re at the point where the proverbial rubber meets the road and we look to you and the commissioners for guidance to lead us out of this. Please do what it takes to make the beach replenishment happen so that the future of our town will be preserved.

You can count on my wife and me to help you in any way we can. Larry Laurence A. Liss | Chief Technology Officer | Blank Rome LLP

Dear Mayor & Commissioners It is very interesting to note that some of us are ready to sacrifice their lives & properties as well as the lives and properties of others for the sake of water views. They are not signing the easement ,thus blocking the replenishment of the beach. If eminent domain is the answer , than I am all for it. This very important issue is happening while other owners are willing to sacrifice their neighbors water view for some trees that have very limited value ,if any. To add insult to injurey,the blocking trees are on the Boro right of way. I hope the issue of beach replenishment gets approved then we might be able to address the tree issue Truly yours, Samir Tadros 4 W Berge Ave

dear mayor, first of all thank you for all your efforts towards beach replenishments. At your suggestion, I signed the easement deed for my ocean front property ( 13 east cape may ) in September of 2005. I am very happy about signing it. It is sad that few people have not signed yet. I hope that they will do it soon. Thank you again. Matt Reddy,M.D.,

one against - but only one so far-Dear Mayor and Board: We live on a sand bar, no matter how much sand we dump or jetties we build Mother Nature will do with us as she wants. I would bet you that 500 to a thousand years ago Long Beach Island wasn’t even here and probably won’t be here in another 500 years. I like the idea of rebuilding the beaches, but not at the cost of our freedom. I would strongly urge you not to invoke eminent domain. This I feel would set a precedent, that anytime a few home owners stand up for their rights, the town could use this. I feel that a decision of this magnitude should not be made at the request of a few home owners worried about there investments. When you build a sand castle, you take the risk of a wave coming along and wiping it out. Once again PLEASE DO NOT USE EMINENT DOMAIN. Sincerely, Richard Franko 3 West Bergen Ave

Dear Mr. Mayor, As a concerned homeowner in Harvey Cedars, I must express my frustration over the current dilemma, beach replenishment or not. Since we bought our home in 1999, we have seen a substantial increase in its value and a decrease in the integrity of our beaches and dunes. We love Harvey Cedars and consider it a privelige to own here. We have no intention of selling or "cashing in." Our beaches concern me because of their potential impact on our value and, more importantly, on our lifestyle. If I understand correctly, certain oceanfront homeowners are opposed to replenishment because their views may be compromised with a rise in dune height. This opposition could cause the town to forfeit substantial government funding and await an active hurricane season that promises landfall in the northeast. While my views may be compromised as well, I would much prefer that to the possible alternatives... no beach, no value, no home! My frustration lies however, in the fact that the few who oppose could take priority over the well being of the borough and the vast majority of its citizens. Our beaches will certainly continue to deteriorate until such time that a major storm comes again, and they will. While we await signed easements pending discussions of dune height, we risk losing this funding and incurring substantial costs ourselves at some point. If beach replenishment is "critical to every home in this town," I strongly encourage the Board of Commissioners to use appropriate means to insure this important project takes place. Ultimately, it is the safety and well being of our community and all of it's citizens and properties, not our views, that must take the highest priority. The decision to act or not will affect us and our children for decades to come. Sincerely, Tony Buglione

As a property owner at 8 E 76 St., I am writing today to voice my support for the beach replenishment project currently under debate. I am perplexed and disappointed that there is so much controversy over what seems like a “no brainer.” In informal dialogue this past weekend, it seems everyone I've spoken to is in favor of the project. One can only believe then that either the hold-outs are simply idiots, or misinformed. It seems a great deal of time and energy has been expended to inform the general population, leading me to believe that we are being held hostage by a small faction of fools. I urge you and your leadership committee to take what ever actions are necessary to insure we get the benefit of the beach project. I know in Cape May county they had similar problems, and were somehow able to push through the necessary paper work even though there were selfish idiotic hold outs I hope this note along with any assistance that we can provide, will result in Harvey Cedars getting the benefit of a wider beach and at the same time some needed protection for all of our valuable property. Greg and Janis Gutchigian 8 E 76 St.

emails - May

Dear Mr. Mayor
Proper judgment and logic dictate that we do our utmost to help protect our Island , Boro and homes. Dire predictions and history of previous occurrences resulting in loss of lives ,should have convinced ocean front owners to sign the required easement Please do whatever is in your power to get the funding for the beach -replenishment project to help protect our lives and our properties With God's help it will happen Samir Tadros 4 W. Bergen Ave

Dear Mayor,
It is extremely disturbing to my wife and I that a handful of people have paralyzed an extremely important project. It saddens us to see the usable beach shrinking steadily, As oceanfront owners, we believe strongly that the beach replenishment project should proceed. It is in the best interests of everyone concerned to be able to commence this work in September. We have gone to meetings of oceanfront owners who are against this project and their objections border on hysteria. While we understood some of the objections, I thought that the DEP made adjustments that would satisfy them. I understand now that there are still "holdouts" who refuse to meet or discuss the topic. Is that true? Is there any legal recourse for those of us in favor of the beach replenishment project? Sincerely, John J. Rodrigues & Anne E. Boss 12 E. Passaic Avenue

Mayor: I realize you are getting many emails and I hope you’ve had the opportunity to review them. My thought is whether Eminent Domain can be used to take possession of the area needed for the easement, sign the easement, then vacate the property back to the original owner. The general public would be better (a requirement for Eminent Domain) and the original owners would not have lost their land but only given up some of its rights (something that a regular Eminent Domain situation does not achieve). By forcing their hand you are actually benefiting them. Eric Gulotta 20 Warwick

Dear Gentlemen and Lady: Please do whatever is possible to prevent the beachfront easement signing holdouts from costing us this needed protection for our community. This Public Protection must outweigh whatever private interest that obstructs it. John Sullivan 19 West 80th St. Harvey Cedars

Dear Mayor, Again, what is the issue with not using eminent domain? At some point the Town needs to step up and get this done – Has anyone demanded a meeting with Lisa Jackson? Why do I feel that, although great efforts have been made, the ultimate effort is not being made to guarantee that the project goes through? Condemn the easements and start pumping the sand!!!!! Please!!!! Edward Walters Jr. 14 East Atlantic Ave
The house that survived the ’62 storm – as you are certainly aware, the house is in the infamous picture taken from the top of the Bible Conference during the storm.

Please move forward with the beach replenishment project. We support your efforts to get property owners to agree to this important project and safety measure. We are in favor of the use of eminent domain if that is necessary to protect our beach and our homes from potential disaster. Alan Groff, Passaic Ave.

Dear Mayor and Commissioners, I live at 63 Cedars Avenue and have been a homeowner in Harvey Cedars since 1997. I am writing this letter to stress to you how important the beach replenishment project is to the community and all of Long Beach Island. If the oceanfront homeowners do not sign the easement, you have to do whatever is necessary to protect the whole community. Whether it is eminent domain or another legal maneuver, the beach replenishment project must proceed. It is unfair, shortsighted and selfish for the oceanfront owners not to sign. The rest of our community deserves to be protected ,as much as humanly possible, from a severe storm. I urge you to do whatever is necessary to make sure this opportunity to protect Harvey Cedars does not pass us by. Robert Levin

Please move forward with the replenishment project. Don't let a few people ruin it for everyone. My children will be grateful down the road. Laurence Brown

I am wholly in favor of the beach replenishment project for Harvey Cedars. I support all your efforts to get property owners to agree to this important project and safety measure. Gary Chasen 9B East Bergen

To whom it may concern, My husband and I have owned a home in Harvey Cedars for the last six years and have been watching closely the beach replenishment project. I do not understand why any beach front homeowner would not support this project. I was raised in Long Beach New York and I have seen first hand the devastation that a hurricane or noreaster can do to a community, I don’t want this to happen to us. We are in favor of eminent domain to protect our beach and our homes from any potential disaster that nature sends our way. Please act on this quickly so that we do not lose this valuable opportunity and be the first community on the island to take advantage of this project. Sincerely, Deborah and Anthony Buglione 9 East 75th Street Harvey Cedars

Dear Sirs and Madam,
Much has been said about dune heights blocking views, about the “poor” quality of the beaches in Monmouth County, or about the loss of surf breaks as reasons not to sign the easements. I believe the people saying these things should remind themselves of Sandy Hook, Sea Bright and Monmouth Beach. Areas remarkably similar to ours – thin strips of land surrounded on 2 sides by water

I guess these people don’t recall the days when The Weather Channel sent a live television crew to Sea Bright every storm because it was only a matter of time before the ocean met the bay. The beach replenishment done there means the TV crews no longer have a story to cover.

As far as dune heights, how about instead – as they were forced to do in these towns - we build a 25 high pile of rocks, with concrete poured over it in order to hold back the sea. No sea grass, no pines trees, no vegetation of any kind. This attractive barrier could have been avoided had beach replenishment happened in time.

As far as surf breaks, who are these people kidding? The surf breaks were gone in many of these areas long before the replenishment because the beach was GONE. There was no beach at all, just a walking path on top of the rocks. Given the choice of the loss of a surf break or the return of a beach for all to use, I think the vast majority of voters will take the beach.

I for one do not want to see these things happen to ocean-front. Our beaches are beautiful, but they will be gone if we do not act now. If the Weather Channel had been around in the early 1960’s, you can be sure they would have sent crews to film in Harvey Cedars. The only difference between Sea Bright and Harvey Cedars is that in Harvey Cedars the ocean HAS met the bay, and you can bet that it will happen again without this project going through.

The actions of the hold-out 44 oceanfront homeowners are selfish and short sighted. I believe that the town council needs to take action to protect to property and rights of the majority of the residents of Harvey Cedars, and I think these actions need to take one or both of two courses.

The first course of action stems from the fact that oceanfront homeowners seem to have no problem using my tax dollars in allowing the town to come onto their property in perpetuity to replenish the beach when their property is endangered. Why now the double standard? If this replenishment project does not go through, the town should immediately pass into law that the homeowner be billed for time and materials for repair. If they do not pay, let the house fall into the ocean. I am sure that many of the people 2 or 3 houses off the beach will pre-sign an easement, as they will shortly become oceanfront homeowners.

The second, and harsher option, is the use of eminent domain. This is an example where the appropriation of the property is clearly for the public good. Although there is fear that the valuation of the property seized may be excessive, I am sure that by clever use of zoning laws (say a zero setback on the ocean side of the lot) the value of the property seized would approach zero.

The Council is faced with a difficult decision, but we cannot allow the selfishness of 44 homeowners to effectively hold the rest of the town hostage. Mr. Mayor, you recall the 1962 storm and we all know that it will happen again. Since then we have already had “The Perfect Storm.” For Harvey Cedars, without this project, it is only a matter of time before many of us have “The Final Storm.”

I would like to thank the council for your efforts so far in seeing this project through. I ask that now you do whatever you need to do to make sure the selfish few do not threaten our entire town. Sincerely, Bryan Lewis 83rd Street

Dear Mayor and Commissioners, I hear you have considered using Eminent Domain to get this project going and have been recieving some amount of resistance to the idea. I also do not want you to use this tactic but at the same time, I don't want to loose my house or the island. Do what ever it takes to get this done. The needs of the few never outweigh the needs of the many. "Spoiling my view" is not an acceptable excuse as opposed to spoiling my house or my island. Get this done. Regards, Mark Lazar 1 West Lee Avenue

re: Forecasters Predict Active Hurricane Season -NY TIMES 5/23/06
Thought you'd be interested in this from TODAY's NY Times. Wouldn't it be a shame to block this project from happening and then lose one's home? By the way, with forecasts like this, I suspect the value of our homes will start dropping soon unless this project moves forward. Best regards, David

Mayor Jonathan Oldham: mayor@harveycedars.org Michael Garofalo: commissioner.finance@harveycedars.org Judith E. Gerkens: commissioner.dpw@harveycedars.org
you have my support to do and spend whatever town resources needed to get the remaining 44 easements signed. this is an opportunity that you as our elected officials must get done on your watch. we must not let the short sidedness of 44 people jeopardize the town's safety. consider hiring professionals to personally visit each of the 44 owners that have not signed. have them to do and bring what ever it takes to show and prove that this easement will protect the long term value of their property. some ballpark numbers, lets say the professionals cost on the average $2,000 per visit. the 44 visits would come to $88,000. given that there are 1320 tax listings on the books in HC, would cost each property owner $66 for this special project. worst case scenario, let's say the above cost figures are off by a factor of 10 and the one time charge is $660 per HC taxpayer. given what one bad storm can do to the assessed and market values of HC property owners, it is a very inexpensive one time insurance premium. i do appreciate all the effort you have put in. again you do have my support to spend whatever of the town's resources needed to get one done. do not let us down, do whatever it takes !!! jim page Block 5, Lot 10 Block 38, Lot 5

2006 hurricane forecast: 8-10 storms U.S. government experts say 4-6 could be ‘major’
Dear Ms. Gerkens, Mr. Galofalo and Mr. Oldman:
I pasted the above headline from tonight's MSNBC "header" online. This does not look good. As a small barrier island, LBI would surely take a big hit if one of these storms happens to make it's way to us.

People always complain that they don't see the fruit of their hard-earned tax dollars. Finally, some of this money has been sent our way in the form of Federal aid in the Beach Replenishment Project. Because of selfish self-interest, ignorance or plain apathy of some oceanfront property owners, Harvey Cedars and her people are about to loose this funding and more importantly this Island saving project. Loosing this beach replenishment could do us all harm that can never be corrected- not only in property and property value but in life itself. Please do not let this opportunity slip away from us. YOU are our final line in the sand. Please take steps immediately to use eminate domain to save this project!

When you ran for your positions on our town council, you knew that you would have to make some tough decisions. You would have to stand up for what might not be the most popular position, but the position that was in the best interest of a community that we all love. You where elected to do your job and now the time has come that you must act. Please, please take the steps needed now and save this project. Most sincerely, Susan Lewis 10 East 83rd St

Dear Mayor Oldham: As home owners in Harvey Cedars (8 E. 83rd Street) we thank you for all the hard work and effort you have diligently provided on the beach replenishment project. With the June 15th date rapidly approaching please persevere and use all your powers and abilities to bring this project to a sucsessful conclusion. Sincerly, Vera & Jim Loudon

I want to be sure that the officials, that represent Harvey Cedars, are doing everything possible to insure that the properties, of Harvey Cedars, are being protected against further erosion of the beach and that if a serious storm threatens the town, our properties will have been given the best possible support and chance at this junction of time. I believe the replenishment project is necessary and will help in the possible near future to maintain the town of Harvey Cedars and not allow another 1960’s type tragedy. Michael Todd

Mayor: I can not believe that the oceanfront property owners are so shortsighted or ignorant that they STILL refuse to sign the easements so our beaches can be replenished with sand! They are the ones who will suffer the most when the next big one (LONG OVERDUE) hits, but we will ALL suffer when the remains of their ocean front mansions are washed over the island to the bay. Are they are so selfish that they want to be PAID for these easements? I would like to see the list of unsigned easement owners published in the Sand Paper. They should be reminded of all our young volunteers fighting the war on terrorism in harms way so that the oceanfront owners can continue to enjoy their digs. Let's cooperate and get the "free" beach replenished this year before the offer vanishes forever! Richard D. Merion 83d St.

I have been following the Harvey Cedars taxpayers website with interest, especially as it relates to beach replenishment. I have not seen any new e-mails since those posted from Feb 9 – March 15, 2006. Have there been updates? Thanks John Galat

To my Neighbors along the Shore, Very soon, in just a few more days, many of us will be thinking of our shore address as the one in which we would hope we could spend more time. At least that is true for me, and my ever growing family.

The image of the sand and surf and our children playing, swimming and gliding along on boogie boards sustains us through the off season. We have come to take for granted the wonderful feeling when we climb onto our decks and just look at the ocean. BUT THIS COULD ALL CHANGE.

I don't know how many of you keep up with news from the shore. I do.

We have a serious problem on our hands. Our beaches are disappearing and the once protective dunes have, once again been decimated.

Fortunately; the elected officials in Harvey Cedars seem to be on top of the problem. In short, there are federal funds available to rebuild the dunes to a height which will protect us. There is a program available which will replant the dune grass. The bottom line is that without this work being done, many of your homes may not be there when you come down.

If you think I am overstating the situation, go on line, or Google Harvey Cedars and work your way to the photos of what is left of some of your dunes.

The Army Corps or Engineers and the EPA are asking for easements to allow access to your dune in order to rebuild it. To date only about 30 of us have responded to the appeal the commissioners have sent out. There are still 50 or more oceanfront owners who have not responded. In order to get the funds, we need full participation. There is no danger in allowing an easement. There is great danger in not granting one.

The one thing none of us want to happen is having the commissioners decide that in the best interests of the rest of the shore community, they would acquire your dune via eminent domain. Then there would really be a great many folks upset. It is no big deal to allow the construction crews to do what they must. At this point there is very little time left to get all the applications filed and permits issued.

I urge all of you to contact the Borough Hall and find out what you MUST do NOW.

There is one other issue which came up. The Feds have stipulated that since public funds are being used, the public must have access to be beaches. We already have public access to our shore line. However, it is also necessary that some public toilet facilities be provided. I have looked into this and have been assured that by utilizing the existing facilities at Sunset Park, Borough Hall and constructing one at the bay beach, we would be in conformance with the Fed requirements. In the event, that a few more units would be required, they would be placed in proximity to the business sections of the Borough. There WILL NOT BE ANY such facility placed near any of our beaches. The Mayor has assured me of this.

So please, get your papers signed (or make the call) and rest easy. Then we can all look forward to many more years of the wonder of our precious shore. One last point….I volunteered to write this letter to all of you. No one has asked me to do it. Protecting our dunes to protect our homes is my only motivation. Please pick up your phone, or get on line and let's get it done-together----NOW!!! Sincerely, Ilan Plawker Beach Bum Wannabe..

Thanks for your continued efforts on behalf of all property owners, it is greatly appreciated One problem that I tried to get the board of comisioners to address properly is the proliferation of huge trees that are growing unchecked , on the right of way. They are totally blocking a lot of properties water view , which is the number one asset on the island The board was discussing a new ordinance that would stunt buildings to insure air and light where by they could achieve that simply by trimming and cutting the trees on Boro property Hope you can add your voice to ours Thanks Samir Tadros 4 West Bergen Ave

I would like to brief you on the issue .I attended a commissioners meeting last fall and I handed a number of photos to the mayor to illustrate the extent the trees are depriving me of water views. I also submitted a letter from Jim Page to reflect the same The Boro was proposing an ordinance to stunt buildings and make them split -levels to insure light and sun is allowed .Ocean front property owners are fighting over the height of the dunes to preserve their water views I suggested a limit of four feet for the height of everything on the right of way. I got the attached letter from the mayor . I did not reply because he mentions mailboxes, trash cans and landscaping on the right of way, things that are less than 4 feet. I wonder why he did not mention gravel stones and weeds as well Do you think the mayor suggestion of resolving the issue with involved property owners is a feasible suggestion? You have seen how difficult it is to work with some people even if it is in their best interest I think it is our right to preserve our water views as this does not only affect the value of our properties but also it affects our desire to continue to live on the island . Tamir - part 2

There is a true problem of trees and brushes impeding views and property lines. Despite the town not looking to get involved I see it as a big problem. It is not only views but safety as well. You have houses with little more than 20 feet separating them and trees 30-40 feet in the air. A mathematical disaster. I know it is was previously brought before the board and turned down. Regardless it still needs to be addressed. It is vital to maintain a safe, healthy and happy environment. Trees are no different that building a taller peak or additional floor, in terms of views. Regards, Steven Sewald, CPA

Thanks, I know it is a pain, but it is a real concern to many homeowners. It is a safety issue as well as a financial one, plus installing a good neighbor policy. With blocked views, it creates tension with property owners, affects resale values, and rental rates. It is an issue that the township will have to get involved with, albeit reluctantly. Steve - part 2

emails from early April

We were in HC this past week-end (April 8th) to open our house and couldn't believe the beach/dune damage since my last visit in February! We're located just north of a jetty and, usually, we have a larger beach during the winter months due to the prevailing winds. During the summer months, our larger beach gets slowly eaten away when the winds shift... but, we have that little reserve from the winter buildup so we're okay until winter arrives again and winds shift again bringing the sand back. We're also lucky that we have 2 rows of storm fence along the beach to trap the sand. HOWEVER, we now have only one row of storm fence and about 1/5 of the dune is gone! NOT a pretty site! Now, we're starting the season in a bad way. Pam Branco Liss

We would LOVE to join almost anyone interested in protesting 80% of Stafford Twp. taxes coming from us. It's practically criminal, but seems nearly unsolvable as they have to vote on any change. Chances are remarkably good that they won't want to change the status quo. Who would?
Speaking of Bernie Haney, the dear man has just tried to raise our assessment for a third time, because we appealed! He's going to the hearing in June to protest against our appealing the second assessment, and ask for more. Who made him god, and is there no limit to his authority? Mad and overpriced, Pam & Bill Enslin

I agree we should reduce our payment to SRHS and and pay tuition for each and every student to attend whatever private school they desire. We could pay for everyone to go to Exeter, Andover, or Choate and still save a pretty penny! Barbara Lehman

Just wanted to thank you for all your hard work to save our town. We bought ocean front property in Harvey Cedars in 2002 so we are new to the town and love it -- however we have been praying (yes, praying) that God would hold back the waters and not allow our home to be destroyed. When we heard of the beach replenishment project, I saw it as a direct answer to prayers. So of course I am astounded at the short-sightedness we are seeing. Even if those who currently object have a solid beach in front of their homes now, and their neighbors loose their property, the ocean will re-take all the land eventually. Our beach is minimal and deteriorating week by week -- where we once had two dune fences they have now both been destroyed. I was just down this weekend and watched the tractor working all day trying to rebuild the dunes -- in 2 days some of the sand just put on the dune was washed away. Anyway, just wanted you to know you appreciated and your work will not be in vain. Freida Watson

I find it quite rediculous and selfish for homeowners to worry about the height of the replenished dunes. The dunes are there to hopefully protect all of the properties behind them. We are very lucky that the general public continues to fund these projects. Walter Bowne

To all HC beachfront property owners who may be concerned about granting the government an easement east of the 20' to which they are otherwise entitled. Does it make sense to potentially allow your property to be damaged by storm and tidal action? A destroyed home offers no ocean views. The cost to any one property owner of replenishing their beach front is exorbitant. Why not grant the federal government the easement and allow it to largely foot the bill? You and the rest of our township will then obtain a direct return on our federal tax dollars which the federal government seems to have no problem otherwise wasting on silly and fruitless projects. Barry & Carol Sziklay

new emails!!!!! February 9 - March 15

just went to the DEP meeting yesterday(3/10).......very informative. looks like a GREAT project.... not just dunes... but lots of beach and fill...... john cadmus

I also am 1. A tax paying oceanfront owner and 2. (If they think I "SIDE" with developers).... a lifelong member of the Sierra Club. I am not against " air and space." I am for property rights.
CHANGE YOUR VOTING STATUS TO HARVEY CEDARS. I KNOW OTHER POWERFUL VOTING OWNERS. I THINK THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGES ARE WRONG. THE WHOLE TOWN WILL HAVE A DROP IN VALUE. WE SHOULD BE CONTACTING ALL RESIDENTS WHO VOTE TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THIS ZONING CHANGE WILL PERMANENTLY CHANGE THE VALUE OF THEIR PROPERTY, NOT ONLY FOR THEMSELVES, BUT THEIR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN. HARVEY CEDARS WILL BECOME THE POOR STEPCHILD OF THE ISLAND... WITH DISSIMILAR STRUCTURES TO THE REST OF LONG BEACH ISLAND.
NOT ALL RESIDENTS ARE FOR THIS CHANGE, JUST THE VOCAL ONES. HOW DO WE GET THIS MESSAGE ACROSS? WALKING INTO TOWN HALL AND COMPLAINING TO THE MAYOR IS NOT EXACTLY A REFERENDUM., BUT THIS SEEMS TO BE THE GUIDING LIGHT BY WHICH TOWN OPERATES. BY THE WAY, THE GROUP AT THE LAST MEETING ABOUT THIS CHANGE WAS AFRAID OF A REFERENDUM... I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT VOTERS. IF EDUCATED, I BELIEVE MOST RESIDENTS WOULD OBJECT STRONGLY TO THIS CHANGE.
WE SHOULD BE CONTACTING ALL RESIDENTS WHO VOTE TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THIS ZONING CHANGE WILL PERMANENTLY CHANGE THE VALUE OF THEIR PROPERTY, NOT ONLY FOR THEMSELVES, BUT THEIR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN. HARVEY CEDARS WILL BECOME THE POOR STEPCHILD OF THE ISLAND... WITH DISSIMILAR STRUCTURES TO THE REST OF LONG BEACH ISLAND. NOT ALL RESIDENTS ARE FOR THIS CHANGE, JUST THE VOCAL ONES. HOW DO WE GET THIS MESSAGE ACROSS? WALKING INTO TOWN HALL AND COMPLAINING TO THE MAYOR IS NOT EXACTLY A REFERENDUM., BUT THIS SEEMS TO BE THE GUIDING LIGHT BY WHICH TOWN OPERATES. BY THE WAY, THE GROUP AT THE LAST MEETING ABOUT THIS CHANGE WAS AFRAID OF A REFERENDUM... I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT VOTERS. IF EDUCATED, I BELIEVE MOST RESIDENTS WOULD OBJECT STRONGLY TO THIS CHANGE. John Cadmus

I have to observe that I am impressed with how the Harvey Cedars personnel have been responding in a very positive, professional manner in this very public forum. This is healthy for our town. This is a good thing. Thank you for your efforts and keep up the good work. Jim Finne

A non-buildable lot would be determined in either of 2 ways: the location of the building line and the square footage of the lot. the minimum lot is 5000 sq. ft. in the RA district and 7500 in the RAA district (from Buckingham to 73rd St). Any smaller lot needs to get a variance from the zoning board because it is non-conforming. The building line is on the oceanside and is about 20 feet west of the famous bulkhead line. It is on the tax map and was established after the 1962 storm. I believe there are some existing houses that are partially beyond the building line. If those houses were destroyed, they could not rebuild beyond that line and depending on the size remaining on that lot, depends on the size of the house. You can, however, build up to the building line and use the whole property size for the lot coverage. Daina Dale in answer to my question - How does an oceanfront lot become a non-buildable lot?

First on the ocean has no FEMA recourse. If the wave takes the house, it is gone and it can not be rebuilt. That is FEMA! The only protections that the house has are the pilings and its height. The pilings are not deep enough to survive the destruction of the dune. The only defense that the dune has is its mass (height and width). The dune has to last longer then the storm. It is really that simple. jim finne

my oceanfront easement/deed papers have been signed, notarized and are in the mail much thanks to all to push this forward to get HC first on the list to receive beach/dune replenishment. tight timeframes are needed to be set and enforced so to "get this done" i realize that some HC taxpayers are relatively new to the town and have not seen the severe damage that can be done without proper dune protection. i have scanned in some pics from the 1992 storm that may help you and the HC taxpayer association get the cooperation from those who still have not signed.
i have set them up on a website, so to share easily and to drive home the point that their Harvey Cedars investments are in danger unless they act now !!!
www.laurenpage.com
feel free to use the link above, i hope this helps jim page

We regret that Mrs. Greber has had a problem during this major water main construction project. As per specs, all homeowners on a street where the contractors are working are notified in the morning if there is going to be work done that day that could affect their homes. An employee of the company goes door to door on the street they are working. Posting notices on the door or mailbox can too easily be overlooked. The construction workers are not Harvey Cedars water department employees and, while we hired this company to do the project, the management of the project is their responsibility. Mrs. Greber should discuss her concerns with Lafayette directly, or with the Borough project engineer who is on-site daily supervising the construction.

I have just read your letter to Mrs. Greb,advising her that she should get in touch with your agent, Lafayette, regarding the water-pipe replacement project which caused debris to be flushed into her pipes since the management of the project "is their responsibility". To the contrary, the responsibility for this project is the Boro's to whom we pay taxes to supply us with water. I really can't believe that the Boro is not going to represent one of its taxpayers in a dispute with an agent of the Boro which it hired since Lafayette is its agent and responsible to the Boro, not the taxpayer who had no part of the decision to hire Lafayette in the first place. You guys are not too young to remember the sign on Harry Truman's desk, are you? It was: "The buck stops here!" Please don' t try to pass the buck to poor Mrs. Greb. One more thought. It would be very nice if the Boro would send a letter to all the taxpayers, perhaps enclosing it with the next mailing, advising them to try to clear their pipes before turning on their water for the summer. Non-resident taxpayers probably amount to more than 50% of the tax rolls (and your salaries) and should be notified by a method other that knocking on their doors when they are not there. If not, I'm sure you will get many more letters about damage caused by debris in the pipes when the water is turned on in the Spring. Dan Cuoco

The Borough is handling this for me and has asked for my bills. Thanks to all that spoke on my behalf. Bettie Greber

February 2nd - February 8

I am impressed with the good job that you are doing in keeping HC residents informed as to the status of the beach replenishment project. HCTA is working the way that all our associations should work -- keeping residents informed as to what the borough is doing AND keeping the borough informed as to residents' positions on various issues. Keep up the good work! Sarah Lambert

I want to say thanks for ALL the efforts that you, council members and all others have done. I do not oppose the proposed changes. It is for the betterment of all homeowners of Harvey Cedars and is desperately needed. The Q&A from Daina Dale is excellent and tho my home is not ocean front - I am on Holly & Cumberland and I was told that this is where the ocean met the bay in 1962 . I have only owned this home for 11 years, I love the community and think it is the best place on this island to live. Bernie Cleff 3 W.Cumberland Ave. Harvey Cedars,NJ

Is there are list of the holdout homeowners? Can their names be publicized so their neighbors can know just who is holding up beach replenishment?
If it is just condemnation and buyouts they want then it is not about "science." I wonder if these oceanfront owners have looked at their properties lately. Lynne Warshaw

Given the critical deadline we face with the easements, we need to limit our future questions to only those which will aid in procuring those easements. There will be time later to address other suggestions and concerns, like the coastal management lessons document.

Without a doubt, our #1 priority at this time is to get the deeds signed by the ocean front homeowners. This is an absolute, drop-dead, critical path item and requires our FULL attention as the clock is ticking. Our window of opportunity is limited by EITHER of the following occurrences:

1) Ship Bottom and/or Surf City get their signatures and go first, thus exhausting the allocated funds for 2006, or

2) December 31st comes and the appropriated funds expire. Given the demand for funds in New Orleans and Mississippi (thanks to Katrina), you can rest assured that Congress will not be predisposed to re-appropriating funds to benefit $1MM+ vacation homes in Harvey Cedars, especially when, in their eyes, these funds were snubbed the first time. Pam Branco Liss - Feb. 3rd meeting

Dear Concerned Harvey Cedars Taxpayer:
As noted in our earlier email communications, it is clear to us that the Commission has heard the voice of the community regarding the proposed zoning changes.

On Friday evening February 3, following the regularly scheduled Commission meeting a group of representatives met with the Mayor and Commission to continue the discussions regarding zoning changes as a "working group".

That group participants included myself and Joe Krug as well as local architects Phil Kunz, Jay Madden, and Craig Brearly. Several taxpayers and residents who attended the earlier commission meeting remained at Borough Hall to observe and participate in this meeting as well.

The Commissioners first reiterated the fact that they continue to receive continued feedback from other taxpayers who are very supportive of zoning changes (house size reduction) in the Borough. As a result, they are seeking a compromise solution to the issue of zoning change since they clearly acknowledge there is (at the very least) a nominal split of taxpayer opinion in HC.

There was significant discussion about the fundamental purpose of any proposed changes. The outcome of that discussion was conceptual agreement among the parties that it is in the best interests of the Borough and the overall community that our zoning ordinances maintain and/or promote open views of the ocean and/or the bay. As part of accomplishing that goal, the Commission feels strongly that ensuring an appropriate amount of "light and space" between and among residential structures in the Borough is key. However, no agreement was reached with regard to any specific mechanism to accomplish this.

The meeting was concluded with an agreement to continue discussions in general and for the three architects in the group to develop ideas and evaluate alternatives for achieving the goal without simply reducing the size of a dwelling or of living space permitted by current code. We discussed evaluating the relative size of the third story to the second story of a home and also agreed that "pushing down" homes to reduce overall structure height made little sense given that most homeowners would prefer the option of building on pilings for protection.

Nothing has been decided at this time and we will continue to keep you informed of our discussions as they progress.

On another important note, the association urges beachfront property owners who have received their beach replenishment easement agreements but have not returned them to do so ASAP. Delay in returning these agreements promptly will surely risk the completion of the beach replenishment project. The Mayor and Commission are very focused on this project since it has become clear that any delay in obtaining all executed easements will put the entire project in jeapardy. It's clear to us that with the State budget deficit surpassing record levels, any delay in the start of this project will mean a delay or denial of funding.

If you have received an easement agreement and still have questions or concerns, please contact the Borough Commission directly. They are prepared to be immediately responsive to your needs. Respectfully, Tom Christopoul Borough phone is 609-361-6000 x112 and talk to Daina

Will the town tells us who these "other" taxpayers are? Not one person that I saw at the January meeting was in favor of the changes except for the board members. Why haven't these "other" taxpayers shown up at meetings. I feel, that they (the board) are using these phantom taxpayers to promote their own agenda. Please keep fighting. Sincerely, Richard Franko 3 West Bergen

Glad the Borough is waking up and doing what is important first. Lena Nerrie

Just opened my mail and got a 50percent increase in myreal estate tax assessment from the Tax Assessor of Harvey Cedars. Dan Cuoco

This is outrageous! Our taxes went up 30% after the reassessment and now they want to raise our assessment by $611,000. Rolling assessments bring in more money to the Boro, but screw the homeowners. This has to be stopped! William & Pamela Enslin 7806 Compass St.

I appreciate you are focused on beach replenishment, which is important. However, 570 taxpayers have been hit, some very hard, with increased assessments. Bernie is not being very responsive to questions as to how the increases were decided. I need the help of the organization to challenge the change to a rolling assessment. With the market topping out, there shouldn't be the increases in the assessment that have been made. In a rising market, the tax rate should be going down, however if the market drops, the tax rate goes up. In any event, any increase should be supported by real estate sales and not by a formula. Thanks for your help! Wm & Pamela Enslin 7806 Compass Street

The town seems to be focused on the beach replenishment project because they now believe if we don't get the project started in 2006, we may lose the funding altogether one of the problems seems to be that there a a few lawyers who have contacted homeowners and told them they can negotiate better terms (which is FALSE) - the government will not negotiate individually with anyone or to wait until the property is seized under eminent domain and then they can sue for damages (which is stupid since if we don't get the easements signed, the project won't go forward) Tom Christopoul

January 26th - February 2nd

Bulldozing has always been a cheap excuse for beach replenishment. I t simply does not work. Although, it seems to keep the taxpayers happy. jc

I CAN TELL YOU TODAY... NOT ONLY ARE HOMES SELLING FOR LESS... NEW HOUSES ON THE MARKET ARE ASKING LESS THAN THEY DID LAST YEAR. RESELLERS ARE ALSO ASKING LESS. jc

re signing oceanfront easement - thanks - I called - not needed from me because my property does not go beyond bulkhead line -

Is this legal, I thought there was a 3 year a period, for assessments. That is only can be reassessed every three years? Also with the new rules that are being considered, everyone value has decreased. And without the beach replenishment they will go down even further. I for one will be filing an appeal. The value of my house has not increased 30 + percent in the last year. It seems to me that the people running our little town, are playing god with alot of other people's money. They need to wake up and smell the coffee. Sincerely, Richard Franko 3 West Bergen

What ever happened to the project to get a fair reduction of our share of the school taxes for the county? This is, in my opinion, the reason why our tax increases have been so ridiculous. Haven't real estate values gone down on LBI in the last year by a considerable amount? Dan Cuoco 11 E. Hudson Harvey Cedars

I think I signed my easement, but now am not sure - is there a list I can check against? Linda Pickering 14 E Cape May

Just read your email about the reassessment. I am just curious to know on what basis the reassessment was done this year. The prior reassessment involved a visit by outside assessors who scheduled visits to view interiors of houses. Was this year's reassessment based on actual visits or assumptions and a formula? If values were based on assumptions, could you share the methodology? Lynne Warshaw 708 Powder Mill Lane Wynnewood, PA 19096 Telephone: 610 642-5097 Fax: 610 642-7903 e-mail: lynne@erexcorp.com tax assessor's email is over on the "Other Page" as are his responses

re: bulldozing beaches, hazards of oceanfront pools etc. - It reminded me of a trip we made to the Cayman Islands. We stayed at the Marriott and they had like no beach. I mean it was 6 feet wide. A local told us that before they built the hotel, there was discussions about building a sea wall to allow the Marriott to construct a patio deck and a pool. All the locals told them not to do it as it would cause the beach to erode, but why should they have listened to them, they only lived there for a thousand years? Well anyway, they didn't listen, they built the sea wall and they have no beach. Walking up and down the beach (7 Mile Beach) proved the locals knew a lot more about beach maintenance then the engineers did. Every place that build a sea wall had no beach and those that didn't had 50 - 75 yard beaches. The Army Corps of Engineers should take notice. Thanks for the info, --mark lazar

Yes! Go for it! I understand the signatures of all "beach dwellers" have to be obtained. Is this right? How are they going about doing this. It's an opportunity to get this DONE! Need any help? Evelyn Rabinowitz 10 Cox Ave.

Personally, I do want them replensihed. But, I respect an individual's property rights. I feel that the easement could have been worded so that it would be widely acceptable. People are reluctant in signing in perpetuity, rather than limited to this project and regular maintenance associated with this project. Eternity is a long time! Bettie Greber

We saw the links on your post yesterday and spent a few hours looking at the plans last night. We were surprised to see that the beach was going to be extended 140 feet! (not that we're complaining). And, it looks like the jetty will disappear under sand which is strange because the jetty has really saved our little beach! We had no idea about any of this... which means the majority of beachfront owners have no idea, I imagine. My personal feeling is that the township dropped the ball in handling this entire matter. The only thing we knew is that there was a beach replenishment project underway and they needed perpetual rights to access the beach... that's it! Perhaps we were remiss in not trying to find out more but, frankly, we only get to read the local paper in the summer months when the house is open. We would have no way to learn about this otherwise. Now, it makes sense why they need perpetual access since they will be replenishing every 7 years (assuming the money hold outs, I'm sure). Anyway, I think we're going to have the property surveyed AGAIN (we just had it surveyed for something else last summer... but not elevations)... then we'll sign. Pam

To all: Yesterday the beach erosion was quite significant. At what point will the Town step in and use eminent domain to acquire the easements in order to preserve the ocean front homes and to protect it’s number one asset – it’s beaches? Edward Walters Jr 14 East Atlantic Avenue 609-618-1615

please advise ms chambers that i have no experience with beach erosion. i do however, have the opinion that all replenishment is temporary and perpetual beach maintenance is required. so, the sooner we get started the better particularly if the state and feds are helping. get the money now because their patience is running out. also please have anyone not cooperating with easements arrested.

Although I agree with most of the group opinions, I think your are being mislead on this subject. Being born and raised on LBI, I have been through several storms including the storm of 62. This storm took every home from our home west of the Bld to the ocean. Now, my permanent residence is in PA but I come down weekends year around. I have paid close attention to the buldozing program since it was started. What I have observed is the initial erosion like your photos show. There is an immeadiate errosion at the base for few days after, but the errosion stops and the beach is replenished fairly quickly. There has ben many winters where if this work had not been done, we would have a much more severe issue. It appears your info only addresses the immeadiate errosion. I may be able to supply some pictures of my observations if you wish. Concerning erosion, I thing a more serious issue is the constant raking of the beach in the summer. I have a solution to this as most beach goers would revolt. There is a research available on this topic as well. I will try to find it for you. Jon VanMeter
i got that information off a very good website. just curious if you could find a scientific website supporting bulldozing beaches. i'm happy to change my mind. this is where i got the bulldozing photos and captions
bulldozing photos

The expert opinion that you are asking for is going to be difficult to get. You are asking for some extremely complex and extremely expert calculations. That is why we (Oh we trusting souls) have the Corp of Army Engineers. It is this "independent" agency that is supposed to make the best judgements forour safety and welfare. I will pass this along to a friend who has a lot of experience farther north (PANYNJ) and has a house in Surf City. It is a long shot so please do not count on this one. These are studies that cost megabucks and the answers are still not worth gambling on. Bottom line is that you are on the beach and it is a house built on sand. Enjoy it while you have it because Mother Nature may have different ideas and you (me, Jonathan, George W. or anyone else) will not be able to change the outcome. With that said, if you can get public information from the Corp of Army Engineers with regard to this project you can probably rely upon the conclusions. They serve to many masters to be biases one way or another. FEMA and Corp of Engineers are really a bunch of honest, hardworking engineers who want to do it right and really do not have an axe to grind one way or another. Take their regulations, suggestions, and recommendations to heart because that is the very best information that you will get and it may not be right but it will be closer then anyone elses guess. Jim Finne

The question I have and have not really seen an answer to so far is, is there an update on the school taxes? I know we begin looking into getting them lowered and hired someone to do this but I haven't heard anything about it since then. How is it going? Thanks, --mark
LBI Joint taxpayers association had a feasibility study done. report comes back early March. check our Meetings Page then for more info.

I agree with you, the dozong of the beaches should be prevented. Is this being done? Who is responding to your request that they stop the bull dozing? Also, is their a start date for the “beach replenishment” you mention? How do you know that doing this replenishment will bring the beaches out to the end of the Jetties? Please give me more information, or call me at your convenience. i would love to hear more. Peter daPuzzo

Ken Smith, the Coastal Advocate and I have been telling oceanfront owners and mayors FOR YEARS that bulldozing hurts more than it helps. Great info. jc (John Cadmus)

what then is going to be done to protect us all form losing our beach? Can you fill me in on this? peter DaPuzzo

whet then is going to be done to protect us all form losing our beach? Can you fill me in on this?

That happened many years ago , about 1948 , 49 when Pinto's owned the lot north of ours. He had the beach sand ,at low tide bulldozed up . The result of this lowered the sand from under our bungalow. Lesson. Do not fool with Mother Nature. Joe OD

The late and great Ken Smith, the President of "The Coastal Advocate" and I have been saying for years that bulldozing makes no engineering sense. It actually increases erosion. Keep up the good work. jc

You guys did an awesome job!!! We are happy with the representation that you provided for all of the boro taxpayers. One point though how could Jay Madden stand up and say that we can get more living space by lowering our houses and giving up the garage and storage or give up two bedrooms.-no one and I mean no one would buy or build a two bedroom home in Harvey Cedars. It is ridiculous. Please explain.

Just one thing right now. I truly can't understand what 3 ft. (1 yard!) re: 54' in height to 51' makes much difference in the "light and air" consideration! I personally am not involved since I am not planning to tear down etc. And I do think that if restrictions go so far as to make surrounding more attractive, our land values will decrease. There's a house going up next door to us and I just know that my downstairs bedroom window on that side will not have the sunshine prior to this. But, anything that would have been designed might have done the same thing! I also think this house is using up a considerably more space than the percentages prior to the new suggested %. So, if this happens now, it will most probably happen after the new guidelines go in. (How does this happen????? $$$$$$$?) Gotta' go. Again, thanks for the update. Keep us all posted! Evey Rabinowitz 10 Cox Ave.

emails January 16th - January 25th

Dear Concerned Harvey Cedars Taxpayer: On behalf of Phil Kunz, Joe Krug and I, we would like to extend our sincere appreciation and thanks to those who came out to the meeting last week!! Your overwhelming presence this past Saturday at the Firehouse in HC made a tremendous impact. We also appreciate your patience and attention during the meeting and breaks. It is clear to us that the Commission has heard the voice of the community and is accordingly reconsidering the proposed zoning changes. Our plan from this point forward is as follows: 1. We intend to enlist the help of our representative group to work through any remaining issues with proposed code changes. That group is currently composed of myself , Phil, Joe Krug, Jay Madden, Craig Brearly and Horace Long. 2. We intend to continue to demand compelling and logical reasons for code change from the Commission. 3. At the same time, we intend to continue to work productively with the Commission to arrive at logical and appropriate solutions to issues that are in the best interest of the community at large and supported by a majority of property owners in the Borough. 4. We will also continue to keep you as informed as possible regarding our discussions and dialog with the Commission with respect to this and other important issues in the Borough. Toward that end, we strongly urge you to join the Harvey Cedars Taxpayers Association (currently being coordinated by Joe Krug and Kathleen Reis) in order to more effectively organize the taxpayer voice in the Borough. We will utilize this group and the Website maintained by the Association (our thanks to Wendy Chambers) to inform you of events effecting this zoning code change proposals in a timely manner. For reference the website address is: www.harveycedarstax.com We appreciate that there may be many taxpayer viewpoints which may not have been heard or represented this Saturdaday as a result of the meeting format. If you have a question, concern or comment that has not been appropriately articulated, please send us (or the Commission) an email or letter. We will take all appropriate steps to ensure that your concern is heard and acknowledged. Thanks again for you participation. Tom, Phil and Joe

Well, the meeting went very well if you are opposed to the proposed ordinance. Tom and Phil did a great job in articulating our position ( Thanks, guys ) and the net result is that there will be a continuing dialog between our reps and their's for the purpose of achieving a code that all can live with and that when this is achieved, the new proposal will be introduced. To me this indicated that the powers that be are willing to compromise somewhat, so the proof will be in the pudding sometime later this year (July was suggested by someone in the audience). Early on in the meeting, Tom asked the commission to state what compelling reason they had to make these zoning restrictions and I can't remember anyone answering. Bob Romano who is the chair (?) of the planning board seemed to come out as one of the primary movers and shakers of the ordinance. He says that value in Harvey Cedars is its people and its atmosphere. "Appears nice" "no sidewalks" He said that he was getting a lot of input on density at parties, etc. and that his take was that things "seemed to be getting out of control" in terms of air and light. Jay Madden did a show and tell with cardboard models showing how you could have the same size home as today even after the ordinance is passed. When questioned he had to admit that if you built such a home, you would have a crawl space instead of a really usable ground floor area. I'm optimistic that things will turn out better than we all thought originally. When that happens, we should seriously consider erecting a staue of the anonymous property owner who first brought this to our attention.

Hi Wendy: Any feedback from the meeting? I thought it went very well. We need to get the emphasis off of personal opinion and on to the legal rights of the taxpayers. These commissioners are going to be hammered by home owners this summer if they do not push decision making into June. Their claim that this is a "timing" issue and needs to be solved right away is ridiculous. This will look like a rush to judgment by Harvey Cedars home owners. After 20 years in the real estate business, I can certainly testify that home owners continue to believe that the towns on LBI put through legislation on the off season so that the majority of homeowners will not have input, much less be able to come to meetings effecting their investments. If Harvey Cedars legislates a three bedroom community, the effects on property values would be substantial. Also, Realtors and potential buyers will not only look at the existing law, but, rightfully so, wonder "what will they come up with next"? I indicated to the folks representing the taxpayers at the meeting that I would be willing to offer a Realtor/oceanfront taxpayer opinion as to the devastating effect this zoning change would have on the Borough of Harvey Cedars. They seemed very interested. I haven't heard from anyone yet. None of them had business cards. Can you give me their names/email addresses? Also, I have not heard from HC Taxpayers Assoc. What's up? Keep up the great work! Great web site! jc

Hi Tom, Want to thank you on more time for the superb job in representing the taxpayers and how swiftly you addressed all the issues in such a short time, and ofcourse achieving ultimately what we wanted. The Father of Democracy...Solon...or any Greek Orator/Arbitrator could not have done a better job!!!!!!!!!!. Let me know if I can be of any help going forward. Best Regards, Lena Nerrie

Though I know about the beach erosion, I do not know enough details about it. i.e. what the plans are, how they intend to address this issue, and when do they plan to start, etc. Please keep me posted, and if I can be of further help, I will be glad to do so. Best Regards, Lena Nerrie

Wendy Nice job a taxpayers web page... Both Tom and Phil did a great job of express side... Please keep me and Bob Sexton and Chris falconi informed of matters add us to any list What is tom and Phil email address??/ thank you tony Cannizzo 45 Cedars Ave

It would be very positive to reduce the amount of asphalt pavement and bricks as much as possible. This will not only create a more natural light and airy look but it will also be quite beneficial with regards to water drainage and it does not decrease the value of anyone's property. If there's less paved surfaces there will be fewer puddles and less mosquitoes (west nile virus) too. I often have a large puddle at the end of my dirt driveway where it touches the asphalt road. This is caused because the water cannot drain through the asphalt. Wendy Mae Chambers 13 E. 75th St.

sorry it took me so long to respond. i was just glad to have the opportunity to chime in. my entire life i have dreamed of a second home by the water. since moving to nj i met and married my wife and 5 months ago had my first born. everything is falling together. now i have my beach house, but i can't store anything under my house because my builder was not allowed to simply enclose the bottom with break-away panelling. this would've given me storage, but also improved my utility bill with less exposed pipes. when i tell people i have a place in harvey cedars there's always this look of "good for you", but my fear is now they will look at me and say "too bad". let people build the home of their dreams and as public servants be happy for us. michael rieber

Hi Wendy: In light of yesterday's shocking news regarding the illegal immigrant accused of murdering two young boys and kidnapping their mother in neighboring Stafford, as well as the incident recently in H C (or NB) where a contractor's illegal employee is accused of attempted rape of a young teenage girl, wouldn't it be a good idea to focus serious efforts on the major problem the entire island has with illegal immigrants. Up until last summer, there was a whole houseful of them on 85th Street and the blvd., and everyone turned a blind eye to the situation. The house and yard was an eyesore, the guys would stand out front at night leering at young girls in the neighborhood, the occupancy was difinitely over code, and the shed behind the house was "rigged" with electricity running from the house, in order that a couple of them could live there. This is a real problem and one that will only get worse unless we begin focusing our attention to it. I believe one of the officials of Surf City, whose name I can't recall at the moment, began to look into it after the attempted rape, but I haven't read anything further. Any thoughts/reaction? Thanks, Corinne

I'm not sure where I should be directing my response to the proposed zoning changes, since I will not be able to attend the January 21 meeting. Anyhow, I do not find these proposed changes at all onerous. There have been three significant rebuilds on Mercer in the last several years (and two more underway); all are reasonably well done, and an improvement on the prior property. However, all three are rather large and high, and almost seem to overfill their lots. A nominal reduction in height and coverage certainly seems in order. I find the complaint that these revisions will negatively impact our investments somewhat specious, given what has happened to values over the last 10 years. Further, I didn't purchase my house on the basis of it being an investment; but rather so my family and I could enjoy the shore. Let's focus on the beach replenishment program - and perhaps some tax equalization issues. Charles C. Gaver, Jr 4 Mercer Ave

wendy i am concerned that if all that would like to speak are not given their chance, their may be some legal issues. bill brown

Hello, Though my home is in Long Beach Township, we do share some issues. If you have a emailing list, please add me to it. Thank you. Nice job on your informative website. Glen O'Connor 12309 Ocean Avenue The Dunes

Wendy – I live at 14 East Atlantic Avenue (the ocean front property that you feature for beach erosion). I am planning on joining the association…I was wondering if you could point me in the right direction. I never received an easement to sign…I have no problem with granting the easement for the replenishment project…I just need to have one to sign. Thanks, Edward Walters

I do not see where these proposed amendments benefit anyone who owns a house in Harvey Cedars. They are much too restrictive. What are the reasons for implementing these changes ? 1. If there were a catastrophic loss , I could not rebuild my present house. 2. why is the height being changed from 35' to 31' ? having 10 feet ceilings on two floors with a garage underneath would not be allowed. 3. Why are crawl spaces included as gross floor area ? 4. the sum of all building footprint area not exceeding 46% is not realistic. If someone wanted to buy my house and rebuild, they would end up with a large shed. I do not see how these changes would benefit any tax paying homeowner. Rob Levin 63 Cedars Ave.

as owners of 6513 Holly Ave, we are opposed to any change in Zoning . Especially one which does not permit the residents/property owners who are affected to be heard in a public forum. The proposal is arbitrary and capricious and restricts the property owners use and enjoyment. The Borough should be concerned that it may waste tax payers money defending the ordinance against future lawsuits. That would be a shame. Instead of unilaterally making spontaneous decisions which affect the taxpayers you represent, the Borough should seek other solutions with taxpayers input. Please reconsider and table the decision after those solutions are more appropriately discussed.

Mayor and Commissioners, At your January 21st meeting I would be pleased if you would give Phil Kunz the courtesy to express views and offering insights into the matter of the proposed changes in the Zoning Ordinance. I have discussed these issues at length with Phil and I trust his insight and opinions implicitly. Phil is a 76th Street neighbor but more importantly I have retained his services at an architect for a project that is not related to LBI. I would trust Phil to express a view that would be fair, balanced and workable for me, our neighbors and for the borough administration. The existing ordinance is confusing and probably not enforceable. That is not a good position for the Zoning Officer and for the Board of Adjustments to be in because it exposes the town to law suits over interpretation. While I agree with the intent of the ordinance, the complicated and restrictive calculations may have just the opposite effect. Using a fundamental design principal, the KISS Principal, we can do better with a solution to this conundrum. Thank you for allowing Phil to represent me. Regards, James S. Finne Marianne L. McGarrity

Phil, Changes or not.......so much is allowed that is not up to code with various new structures during the winter.....so old or new codes are meaningless. Take a look at all the houses across from Lang Ave. ( do not remember the name of the street), on the other side of the lagoon...to begin with the stone retaining wall was put there many years ago and it is 20ft x100 plus or minus in violation, meaning it is 20ft in to the bay beyond where it should have been, (I received a map from the DEP from Philadelphia stating so. I sent registered letters and made several phone calls asking what they intended to do about it, but nothing was acknowledged, never received a response) the map was given to the Harvey Cedars Homeowners Association officers. Do not know who has this map now.... they have allowed three house to be built there, which means that this violation created three building lots that otherwise would not have been there. Take a look at the two new houses also. You will see what I mean. I can go on and on...was very involved many years ago when there was a big issue about the lagoon and we went into litigation. Barbara Waldberg was the President of the Association. The big question is why do this in the winter when most of us are not there. What is the rush that a date has been set so that there is not enough time to notify, review, and comment, and how can we change/postpone this so that all of us can be involved. Best Regards, Lena Nerrie

To whom it may concern: As you consider the newly proposed zoning regulations, I ask you to reflect on basic notions of fairness. I have been a homeowner in Harvey Cedars since 1997. My wife and I purchased the home in large part because of the views it afforded. That was a consideration much more important than the house itself, and thus we bought what is probably the smallest oceanfront house in the community. A running joke in the family is that as you walk along the beach our house seems more like a garage surrounded by more significant structures. But our plan has always been to build a structure more suitable to our family's enjoyment at a time when it becomes more financially prudent. Circumstances have caused us to wait. We hope to soon embark on the planning process. As I observe my three contiguous neighbors, I see two very significant structures, on the west and south of me, which I can only guess would not be permitted under the proposed regulations. My neighbor directly to the north had his "renovation" plans reviewed by the zoning board this past year, presumably under the currently existing regulations. And then there is me. Why should I be forced to abide by different rules than those surrounding me were required to abide by? If it were an issue of public safety, I could understand. If it were an issue of population control, that too I could understand. But the basic consideration seems to be one of aesthetics. And what I don't understand is why a current aesthetic perspective should govern why I may be unable to build a structure similar to that of my direct neighbors. That strikes me as fundamentally unfair. I ask each of you to consider the voice of the community before reaching a conclusion on an issue affecting fundamental rights and economic values. Robert Friedman, Esq. 14B East Mercer Ave. Harvey Cedars, NJ 201.303.2456 (Cell)

Honored Public Servants, We have received all correspondence regarding the zoning hearing scheduled for 1/21/06. We have a home on Cumberland Avenue. We bought this home in 2001, and have plans to eventually move there after we re-develop the property. The proposed zoning changes limits our ability to build the home we envision. As you are aware property tax's have significantly increased. Limiting our ability to develop our properties impacts our ability to recover from these tax increases. We do not understand why there needs to be a change to the current zoning codes. And we do not understand who really is prompting these changes. Your letter regarding the 1/21 meeting sounds like a charade. Your letter's tone indicates that a change will happen despite homeowners objections. We ask that the following questions be answered: Who will be representing the homeowners that want no change? Who will be representing those that do? Why are you doing this when so many owners are not even present? Why can this not wait until the summer when the majority of owners can be there for such an important meeting? We respectfully protest the format of this meeting and in the manner you are seeking to make these changes. Sincerely, John & Stephanie Vlahakis

Elizabeth, I read your letter to the mayor and appreciate your willingness to express your opinion. The changes as written are so poorly conceived that the towns attorney had a difficult time writing them and the zoning officer can only explain how they will effect any given house on a case by case basis. They no long make use of straight forward measurements or percentages of the lot size. The size and program of a house, if the ordinance is passed can only be determine at the time of design. Not only did we know how "small" our lots were when we bought them we also knew what size house was allowed to be built on them, and the fact that someone wants to change that is the problem. With the ordinance in place Harvey Cedars will remain a small town. If we loose a few homeowners because they don't like the current size of the houses that can be built that is ok, we all have the freedom to decide where we live. I must point out that if you follow the ordinance it is impossible to overbuild. If in fact somebody has overbuilt then the zoning officer should be notified and the proper action should taken. As far as encouraging more people to buy here, there are already more people wanting to buy here then the market can provide for. You may call them "McMansions" but it is the size house the ordinance allows and one of our commissioners just finished building one, and there is nothing wrong with that. Respectfully, Phil Kunz PDK Architects 700 Collings Avenue Collingswood, NJ 08107

Tom, Thanks very much for meeting with the mayor and commissioners to discuss the proposed changes to the zoning ordinance. Thanks go to Phil and Joe, as well. Time is valuable to all of us and your willingness to represent the home owner majority is very much appreciated. We're concerned that our mayor and our commissioners are still adamant in their plan to move ahead with changes to the current zoning ordinance - even in the face of substantial dissent by a majority of home owners. We will will attend the meeting on the 21st of January. We still have not heard any clear, or compelling reason for changing the ordinance, especially the points 2 and 3 you enumerated below in your note. The change listed as number 1 is pretty much Ok (for us) - as long as the lot coverage ratio doesn't change and the habitable space definition does not include the enclosed under-the-house garage area. The reference by the mayor and/or commissioners (we assume) to a "simultaneous reduction" in "light and space" since the current ordinance was passed is unfounded in our opinion. We just don't see it. We think that any opinion about available light and existing space is absolutely, positively subjective - it's in the eye of the beholder. In this instance, our opinion is as valid as their opinion. However, if our opinion matches the majority's opinion, then we (should) win - case closed. Thanks again, bob and mary lu danna 5 E 68th St. PS. For anyone who wasn't on the island this morning, attached are 2 pictures taken on the 68th St beach, one looking North and one looking South East - and the reason most of us are here in the first place.

old emails - January 14th & 15th

Tom, Thanks very much for meeting with the mayor and commissioners to discuss the proposed changes to the zoning ordinance. Thanks go to Phil and Joe, as well. Time is valuable to all of us and your willingness to represent the home owner majority is very much appreciated. We're concerned that our mayor and our commissioners are still adamant in their plan to move ahead with changes to the current zoning ordinance - even in the face of substantial dissent by a majority of home owners. We will will attend the meeting on the 21st of January. We still have not heard any clear, or compelling reason for changing the ordinance, especially the points 2 and 3 you enumerated below in your note. The change listed as number 1 is pretty much Ok (for us) - as long as the lot coverage ratio doesn't change and the habitable space definition does not include the enclosed under-the-house garage area. The reference by the mayor and/or commissioners (we assume) to a "simultaneous reduction" in "light and space" since the current ordinance was passed is unfounded in our opinion. We just don't see it. We think that any opinion about available light and existing space is absolutely, positively subjective - it's in the eye of the beholder. In this instance, our opinion is as valid as their opinion. However, if our opinion matches the majority's opinion, then we (should) win - case closed. Thanks again, bob and mary lu danna 5 E 68th St. PS. For anyone who wasn't on the island this morning, attached are 2 pictures taken on the 68th St beach, one looking North and one looking South East - and the reason most of us are here in the first place.

Dear Messrs. Oldham and Garofalo and Ms. Gerkens, Thank you very much for your letter of December 20, 2005 in which you explain your positions on the important matters of zoning ordnance changes and the role of the Harvey Cedars community and yourselves in their design and implementation. It was refreshing to receive a timely, straightforward and transparent report about the thinking and planning in which you people are engaged.br> However, I, for one, have serious reservations about your apparent positions on these matters.
1) By no stretch of the imagination do you have a mandate from the community for proceeding as you seem to be proposing that you do; on the contrary, it is likely that a large preponderance of the residents who are aware of your ideas are opposed to them and I think it is probable that the same would apply as remaining uninformed community members become informed.
2) I am puzzled and disappointed as to why you are so determined to proceed with these ordnances with essentially limited input from the community. I say that because the community group should select the people who appear before you, contrary to your position that you should do the selecting. It is clearly impossible for the community to do this effectively until the spring or summer when people begin to return to the shore and can get together, not just by e-mail. You know, these things can always be repealed even if you technically have the authority at this time to proceed as you are suggesting you will do.
3) Your suggestion that we put forth "capable" people to represent us is a rather questionable one for another reason, it seems to me. You have already heard from "capable" people and the only thing I can surmise is that you feel that you possess some special knowledge and expertise in these areas that the hoi polloi do not, and that perhaps you really do not want to find out what the feelings and thoughts are of the majority of the community. Esthetics is a matter of choice, and your proposals are largely esthetic and yet financially and otherwise threatening to a lot of people. For example, if you really were interested in fire prevention you would specify changes in construction materials, new forms of which are now available, and you may not have granted many of the variances that you have recently granted.
4) There is no urgent reason to write a new set of ordinances at this time; if you really are interested in the communal good, you will wait until the spring or summer when more people can conveniently take part in these deliberations. I stress the word conveniently, because you live on the island and have ease of access; we do not and your somewhat conciliatory approach remains substantively unfair for this reason. I hope that you did not intend to silence the opposition by setting up this January 21 meeting as you have and specifying that those in attendance could not take part.
Sincerely, Isaiah A. Share, M.D

I am sorry I will not be able to attend the upcoming meeting. When I bought my lot in 1985 the zoning specified side and rear yard clearance and a front yard setback. There was also a building height maximum. Why not just keep these simple rules. If the house of your dreams will fit the lot, go ahead. If not scale back the house or buy another lot. Anything more complicated is not warranted. Ken Hansen Block 40 Lot 41 # thomas ave

I received your e-mail but i am in naples ,fl till June 1,...but i am against the code changes .. Edward SImmons 3 east 78th street Let them get started with the beach replenishment cleaning up the town cleaning up the buildings like fat cats market ...on the 78th street ...putting the electric wires under ground..tell them there are more important things ...if i can be any help in June thru sept. i would be very happy to help..

I wish to go on record that as a property owner in Harvey Cedars (5621 Holly Avenue) I am against the proposed change in zoning. I also am distressed to see the elected government is trying to pass such a major change during the off season. I hope this matter is reconsidered and withdrawn. Respectfully. Tobi Tesoriero

Harvey Cedars representatives: I am requesting that 100% of our municipal efforts be directed toward the beach replenishment effort at this time and that the proposed zoning changes be tabled or dropped. See below for information on 1989 Hugo storm damage that "The mayor of Folly Beach claims that 65 percent of the beach front property has been lost, as well as most of the town's tax base."
Jim Page - 25 year owner of two Harvey Cedars properties

Folly Beach, South Carolina, HURRICANE HUGO, 1989: over 200 heavily damaged houses fell into this category, making lots valued up to $500,000 essentially worthless (non-buildable)
(OCR for page 220 http://www.nap.edu/books/0309044758/html/211.html)

HURRICANE HUGO: PUERTO RICO, THE U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS, AND SOUTH CAROLINA
Landward of the actual or estimated dune line) and redevelopment (if two-thirds of a beach front building is damaged, it cannot be rebuilt). A quick survey of Folly Beach and some of the other barrier islands indicated that over 200 heavily damaged houses fell into this category, making lots valued up to $500,000 essentially worthless (non-buildable).

The mayor of Folly Beach claims that 65 percent of the beach front property has been lost, as well as most of the town's tax base.

HURRICANE HUGO Damage photos:
http://coastalhazards.wcu.edu/StormDamage/Hugo/Hugo.htm

Note, flood insurance covers the structure but does not cover the loss of value of your lot if it becomes non-buildable !!!!

new emails January 11th, 12th & 13th

Dear Neighbors: After reading the posted emails on this site, I would like to clarify a few misconceptions that I have read. 1. The reason for the need to change the Zoning Ordinance is that the VOLUME calculation must go. Due to the complexity of the houses being built, It is taking 3-5 hours per building permit for the zoning officer to verify the accuracy of the calculations vs. the drawings. I'm sure the borough could hire a few assistants, but don't we pay enough tax already?

2. This winter's building cycle has already begun. In order to give the architects enough time prior to the next building season, the changes need to be done prior to the summer. Even then, September tear-downs will have had plans done prior to the summer. If you think it is alright to wait for the 2007 building cycle, please re-read point #1.

3. From my review of the changes, they will not "severely restrict" anything. Please read the following letter. I hope the text formatting remains: Thanks for taking the time to care about Harvey Cedars.

Dear Mayor Oldham: I regret being unable to attend the community workshop on the zoning changes. As we discussed, half the residents at the commissioner’s meeting half the speakers seemed to be upset about their perceived lack of democracy. They should be very happy since they are now part of the process. The other half were upset about a preconceived notion that their building rights were being "severely restricted" as stated in the letter from a so-called concerned citizen. I hope these residents will realize that these zoning changes are actually less restrictive.

As we know, the Usable Volume calculation is overburdening the zoning officer. Each architect has a different calculation methodology and all plans must be verified. The concept to limit size through volume was laudable, but the calculations required are impractical.

Following is a comparative analysis of the proposed changes versus the current ordinances.

Using a 5000 ft² lot, Usable Volume would currently be 30,000 ft³. Converting this volume to an equivalent floor area using 1 foot floor framing and the minimum 8-ft. wall height would allow a 3333 ft² house. Currently, Section 13-7.3 Usable Volume includes wall and floor framing and all enclosed ground level storage regardless of height.

Under the proposed changes 64% of the lot area, or 3200 ft². would be allowed as Gross Floor Area. Using an 8-foot wall height would give a volume of 28160 ft³. This volume includes the exact same habitable areas as the current ordinance (rooms, garage, foyer, etc) except the current ordinance doesn’t include ground level storage areas. The storage area on a typical split-level house would be 640 ft² and account for an additional 3200 ft³ of volume. This would allow an equivalent size structure under the changes of 31360 ft³ vs. 30000 ft³ that is currently allowed.

Furthermore, under the changes, a 10-foot room height is treated the same as 8 feet. Thus, calculating 2 floors at 10-feet and using the standard 8 ft. ground level garage/storage gives a total Usable Volume under the proposed changes of 36480 ft³. It is also not clear in the new ordinance whether exterior and interior wall framing is included in the floor area calculation. This could allow an additional volume of 4000 ft³ and therefore allow a Usable Volume over 40000 ft³ under the new regulations. This is a 33% increase in structure volume than currently allowed. I find it hard to characterize this as "severely restrictive".

click here for the table of calculations

Fact: I called the DEP in Toms River. You can call and ask for John or Ben Kaiser. I was told that the new dune will be built from the "bulkhead line" to the water line. You can see the bulkhead line on your survey. The height of the "NEW" dune will be 22 feet. You can now check the elevation of your first finished floor on your flood certificate to determine the height of the dune in regards to your home. They said that Parking will impact the entire island. They said Harvey Cedars should have sufficient public parking. However, bathrooms will also impact the island. They will be placed at 1/2 mile intervals. You, Harvey Cedars, will get credit for public rest facilities in the Borough Hall, or Firehouse if they exist. When asked where the public rest rooms will be situated (i.e. will they be placed on the beach?) Th response was that it will be up to the Town where they want the Mr. Bobs located. Access, Island wide, will have to be available for the public every 1/4 mile. This, and the parking, will greatly affect Loveladies and North Beach. The perpetual clause states that the project is a 50 year one. Everyone will have to allow these conditions to remain in effect forever. The issue of liability where the public will use your land to access the beach is a real one. The DEP said that they have their lawyers working on it now, because liability does indeed exist. There will also be changes to the deeds of Oceanfront homeowners. Personal Opinion: As I see it, the beach will change forever. It will be regulated by the DEP, and everyone's title will be altered to include a restriction imposed by the DEP. The township will probably also be affected by regulations on how, when, and where they can clean and maintain the beaches which will virtually be owned and operated by the DEP. This is my opinion. I am still open for discussion, and am looking forward to how the D